Diversity of skin color is nothing compared to diversity of opinion

Ryan Marhoefer,
sophomore business administration major

Guest column by sophomore business administration major Ryan Marhoefer

Racial tensions have obviously heightened over the last few years. But as tensions have risen, the quantity of logical debate has dropped alarmingly quickly.

Unfortunately, today, if you are not in a “victim group” (anyone of an “oppressed” class), then charges of racism are not far behind if you call out hypocrisy, reveal truths or especially if you call for the end of forced diversity (diversity for the sake of diversity). This movement for forced diversity has attempted to dismiss and silence countless voices.

The obsession with multiculturalism and political correctness, in a vain attempt to create “inclusion,” has created an environment where students only hear one side. And, as in all echo chambers, radicalism is unavoidable. This radicalism has hushed numerous individuals who were merely presenting legitimate questions and critiques, such as what has happened to Milo Yiannopoulos, Charles Murray, Ben Shapiro and Heather Mac Donald.

So what caused this toxic political environment?

In this environment of radicalism, “victim groups” are being fed a diet of anti-white, anti-police hatred that inevitably spills over into violence, such as in the Berkeley riots in February, according to Rolling Stone. Demonization is the norm, which leads to the belief that it is justifiable to silence and attack someone due to their “privilege,” orientation, gender, and race. (White privilege is commonly confused with upper-class privilege, which nearly every Chapman student benefits from, with a median parental income of $149,800, which is in the top 3.8 percent of all U.S. colleges, according to The New York Times.)

Today, many students genuinely believe that being a Trump supporter or disagreeing with Black Lives Matter is the same thing as hating black people and wanting a white ethnostate, such as at University of California Riverside, where a student conflated a “Make America Great Again” hat with “lynches, mass genocides, mass deportations and constant killings.”

By creating victim groups and giving them preferential treatment, we are effectively placing one group over another, which inevitably leads to victim and non-victim groups in  opposition to each other as seen at several universities across the country that have experienced heightened racial tensions and protests.

Preferring or marginalizing particular groups only widens the division between groups. These victim groups are incentivized to not reject this label, so the struggle to end this division is doomed to be one-sided. And if individuals were to dissent, then they are doomed to be shamed and attacked by their assigned group and labeled as “traitors” or “sellouts,” like the Black Tea Party activists, according to Fox News.

E Pluribus Unum (out of many, one) beats multiculturalism. Don’t divide people into groups, but rather, unite them. These authoritative attempts for inclusion have only created a larger divide between groups. 42 percent of Americans worry a “great deal” about race relations, as compared to 2014, which was only 17 percent, according to Gallup News.

A wise man once said, “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” If recipients of the Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals program (DACA) should not be punished (deported) because they are not responsible for the actions of their parents, then why should white people be responsible and suffer for the actions of other white people committed generations ago? It is ridiculous to assert that individuals should be ignored or punished because of their skin color.

To the closet conservatives on campus: Don’t tolerate name-calling that is deliberately dishonest. Force them to prove what they claim, or simply respond with this stumping phrase: “Not an argument!” Labeling someone “racist,” “Uncle Tom” or “privileged white guy” is not an argument. It’s a personal attack and a convenient way to sidestep what someone is saying. People on the left expose themselves as racists in their own right by citing race when they meet someone with whom they disagree, as shown when dozens of students at Evergreen State College protested a white teacher who refused to leave campus on a “no-whites” day, according to the Washington Times.

Forced diversity, casual hatred for straight white men and ostracism of conservative blacks and gays have become commonplace. I’m not arguing that forced diversity hurts students (even though it does). Rather, in the pursuit of diversity for the sake of diversity, echo chambers, which only breed radicalism, have created the perfect climate where voices can be silenced. Diversity can be and usually is a good thing, but forced diversity is not. Everyone, especially colleges, should start to take political and intellectual diversity as seriously as they take the more superficial forms of diversity.

Supporting only a specific ethnicity, and silencing or dismissing what someone says on the basis of their ethnicity, is the opposite of diversity and is the definition of racism.

All people are created equal, and all people equally deserve to say what they believe.

Race collectivism is racism. Period.

If you silence an opinion, then you are assuming your infallibility, and that is the root of real fascism.

210 Comments

  • I’m not going to bother to read all of this, because I can find 1000 other “as a white man in power I feel threatened by diversity” articles in every corner of the web. A few thoughts:
    – Don’t speak for groups you do not belong to
    – Keep Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s name out of your mouth (he wouldn’t have liked you anyway)
    – Being anti-BLM and pro-Trump suggests you support policies and principals that uphold racism ergo you enable racism
    – Did you really compare the experiences of Dreamers and immigrant families to white people and centuries of white supremacy? Yikes. My guy, if we want to talk about complicity, this article alone upholds white supremacy, so let’s start there
    – I don’t care what Latin you feel makes you feel hot, this is one long All Lives Matter blogpost
    – The business school needs to do better about teaching critical thinking and historical analysis
    – This is a mess, but hey it’s you’re right to share your mess with the rest of us!

    • This guy just proved the author right! He immediately goes to race.

      Then he says “Don’t speak for groups that you don’t belong to,” and right after that, he says that Trump supporters enable racism. He just spoke for a group that he doesn’t belong to!

      Am I the only one seeing the irony?

    • @Ya’ll know by now
      I am black, liberal, and a Democrat, and I do not agree with 95% of this article, but your comment is asinine. Firstly, how dare you say “the business school needs to better about teaching critical thinking” and then provide extraordinarily general and vague responses without even reading the article. Critical thinking involves understanding and systematically breaking down people’s arguments and opinions– if you truly value critical thinking your comment is pure hypocrisy. You assume the worst of the Ryan’s not-totally-one-sided (albeit poorly written) opinions, and as opposed to telling him why he is wrong or doing anything that might actually convince him to change that opinion, write a list of your own totally unsupported statements and commands. What exactly was your intention with this comment?

    • First off I want to say I agree with most things in your comment, but I feel a better way to get your message across would be to avoid comments that attack a person rather than their ideas. Saying “I’m not going to bother to read all of this” immediately sets a negative tone for your reply. I know you are upset and probably don’t feel as though you have be nice or the civilized person when someone is clearly disagreeing with you, but bringing it to a certain level of childish behavior (“he wouldn’t have liked you anyway”) does not help the situation at all. Again I want to say that I agree with what you said, but we have to remember we want those who do not agree to listen and we want to say things that make them think. To do this we must talk to them in such a way in which they feel that we are listening, but also let them know what the real deal is.

      • Son (and I’m happy to call you son – all of my kids are older than you), I’m older than you, as white as you, am far more red neck than you, have been more drenched in the theology of the useless cheap grace of Jesus than you, own a lot more guns than you and have seen a lot more of the world and life than you. In my learned experience, you’re nothing more than a feather merchant, selling something with no real structure, light as air.

    • You automatically disqualify your argument when you admit to not reading the article. Your “arguments” make clear you didn’t read the article. If you are a Chapman student, the university needs to do a better job of teaching people like you to think critically (as opposed to teaching racist critical thought studies). You have beclowned yourself and it’s good you didn’t use your real name.

    • Can’t read beyond the first line. Sick of the “My opinion is better than yours because i have a big chip on my shoulder” crowd.

    • “I’m not going to bother to read all of this”.
      I stopped reading your comment after that because I know the person who wrote it isn’t worth my time.

    • Haha go immediately to race and say he can’t speak someone’s name. Because he is white?? Oh man you are so naive. One day you will grow up and see how the real world works hahah.

    • I’m not going to bother to read all of this, because I can find 1000 other “I hate white man and hate America” articles in every corner of the web. A few thoughts:
      – Don’t tell me for whom I can speak or what to say.
      – Don’t tell me I can’t quote or invoke Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (he wouldn’t have liked you at all)
      – Being pro-BLM and anti-Trump suggests you support policies and principals that uphold racism ergo you enable racism
      – Did you really deny the experiences of people who happen to be white, yet have no power in society, aren’t wealthy, and have never harmed anyone? Yikes, if we want to talk about complicity, comment alone upholds left wing idiocy and tribalism, so let’s start there
      – I don’t care what idiocy you pontificate on or how I make you feel, because you’re a blither moron who can barely for a cogent thought.
      – No, the business school needs to do better at teaching business, because you what you call “critical thinking and historical analysis” is postmodern Marxist BS.
      – You’re a mess, but hey it’s you’re right to share your mess with the rest of us!

  • Hey Ryan,

    It’s 5:30am and I can’t sleep. I read your column after seeing a few of my friends express some distaste towards what you’ve written. I’m sure you’re not surprised, based on your claims. For the sake of upholding Chapman as an institution that produces global citizens (per our mission statement), as well as responsible, democratic thinkers, I am going to stay up a little longer to suggest a few notes/give you a few criticisms on the column you’ve written. As you pointed out, echo chambers are no good! So, it is very commendable that you stepped outside of yours to engage in a discussion with your peers. I am going to go ahead and copy what you’ve written into this comment. I will mark what you’ve written with “, and all of my notes will be marked with **. Full disclosure: I am a white male.

    Let’s begin!

    “Racial tensions have obviously heightened over the last few years.”

    **This is not a great way to start your piece. You are making an assumption about a vague period of time, and insisting that your assumption is obvious. Also, just based on my immediate knowledge of US history, I would make my own assumption that racial tensions have thankfully been in a decline since the periods of slavery and segregation. Right out of the gate, you have not provided any evidence for the foundation of your column.**

    “But as tensions have risen, the quantity of logical debate has dropped alarmingly quickly.”

    **I don’t really want to spend all morning correcting your grammar and syntax, but I will for the second sentence of your column. In the future, I would suggest that when you write an opinion piece, you put your best foot forward. Consider having someone else edit your writing before you submit it for scrutinization from a wider audience. You and I both know you shouldn’t start a sentence with ‘but’. At least put a comma after it if you are going to make that choice. Your syntax is not great either. Although it is not against the rules of grammar to write two consecutive adverbs, using two adverbs that end in ly is typically pretty awkward phrasing. Off of the top of my head, I can think of a number of better ways to say ‘the quantity of logical debate has dropped alarmingly quickly’. ‘Logical debate has been in decline’ is one option. Again, it really comes down to taking care in what you are writing, especially if you know it will be subject to potentially harsh criticism. You must see the irony in your claim that modern discourse lacks logic, when your own sentences are not structured very logically.**

    “Unfortunately, today, if you are not in a “victim group” ”

    **Are you quoting something here or just using quotation marks for the fun of it?**

    (anyone of an “oppressed” class),

    **Again, what’s up with the quotes? Here, specifically, your use of quotation marks makes it seem like you are de-legitimizing the word ‘oppressed’. This does not bode well for your definition of ‘victim groups’, which is a key term throughout your column. Do you not believe in oppression? Now THAT would make a fun opinion piece!**

    “then charges of racism are not far behind if you call out hypocrisy, reveal truths or especially if you call for the end of forced diversity (diversity for the sake of diversity).”

    **I am guessing forced diversity is a term for which you are contriving your own definition. I googled ‘forced diversity definition’ and the one result I found is a submission on Urban Dictionary that reads ‘when white men are offended by not being the center of the universe’. You have to admit. That’s pretty funny, Ryan.**

    “This movement for forced diversity has attempted to dismiss and silence countless voices.”

    **Diversity, by its real, not made up definition, especially when relating to people, is an idea that is meant to encourage inclusion. This is actually the opposite of dismissing and silencing voices. If you still believe your claim, it looks like your definition of forced diversity aligns with the one from Urban Dictionary.**

    “The obsession with multiculturalism and political correctness, in a vain attempt to create “inclusion,” has created an environment where students only hear one side.”

    **You’re really contradicting yourself here. Multiculturalism and inclusion are words synonymous with multiple sides. From my understanding, what you are trying to say is that you are displeased that there is an impetus to combat white supremacy–the only one-sided scenario you are outlining here.**

    ” And, as in all echo chambers, radicalism is unavoidable.”

    **You can’t claim ultimate truths in your opinion piece. I am fully aware that on my twitter feed, I am pretty isolated in an echo chamber. I would say most people who use facebook are in their own echo chamber. Most people are not radicals. I’m not! Gosh, I hope you’re not! Radicalism is VERY avoidable.**

    This radicalism has hushed numerous individuals who were merely presenting legitimate questions and critiques, such as what has happened to Milo Yiannopoulos, Charles Murray, Ben Shapiro and Heather Mac Donald.

    **Based on you writing the names of these people and understanding their stories, it seems like they have not been silenced. What you might have meant is that they faced opposition in their beliefs. That’s what’s happening now to you, and you weren’t silenced! Unfortunately, I still read your column.**

    “So what caused this toxic political environment?
    In this environment of radicalism, “victim groups” ”

    **Once again, are you using quotes because you don’t believe oppressed people are victims?**

    ” are being fed a diet of anti-white, anti-police hatred that inevitably spills over into violence, such as in the Berkeley riots in February, according to Rolling Stone.”

    **Did you cite any of the sources that you use in this column? Spoiler alert: No. I don’t think oppressed groups are necessarily anti-white or anti-police, so much as they are anti-anti-people of color.**

    “Demonization is the norm, which leads to the belief that it is justifiable to silence and attack someone due to their “privilege,””

    **Sheesh! Quotes here too! Do you also not believe in privilege?**

    “orientation, gender, and race. (White privilege is commonly confused with upper-class privilege,”

    **Have you considered the possibility that most people understand what white privilege is, and you are the one who is confused?**

    ” which nearly every Chapman student benefits from, with a median parental income of $149,800, which is in the top 3.8 percent of all U.S. colleges, according to The New York Times.)”

    **Yes, there is a great deal of wealth at Chapman, but you have to be careful with medians. They are misconstrued by outliers–of which there are many at Chaptown. The same New York Times statistic that you pulled from also goes on to say that 64% of students here are in the top 20 percent of US household incomes. This means that 36% of students are not. That certainly is not ‘nearly every Chapman student’. As a tour guide at Chapman, it is my job to know that 84% of students receive financial aid of some kind to help them pay for school, and the average financial aid package that Chapman gives is $29,000 a year. You would be surprised how many of your peers here do not drive Mercedes or Range Rovers if you stepped outside of your echo chamber. Furthermore, many of those students who are in the top 20 percent are people of color. White privilege has nothing to do with average income.**

    “Today, many students genuinely believe that being a Trump supporter or disagreeing with Black Lives Matter is the same thing as hating black people and wanting a white ethnostate, such as at University of California Riverside, where a student conflated a “Make America Great Again” hat with “lynches, mass genocides, mass deportations and constant killings.”

    *Read these words out loud: ‘I disagree that black lives matter’. Do you sound like someone who loves or hates black people? I would have to write my own opinion piece to dissect the rest of that section.**

    “By creating victim groups”

    **no quotes this time, but by your definition, a victim group is a group of oppressed people, and by arguing that they are created by a politically correct society you are once again suggesting that you don’t believe in oppression, and you do not understand what white privilege is.**

    ” and giving them preferential treatment, we are effectively placing one group over another, which inevitably leads to victim and non-victim groups in opposition to each other as seen at several universities across the country that have experienced heightened racial tensions and protests.”

    **Let me get this straight… the oppressed people are in conflict with the oppressors? And this is an issue for you because you feel like you identify more with the oppressors?**

    “Preferring or marginalizing particular groups only widens the division between groups.”

    **You just described the problems with white supremacy.**

    ” These victim groups are incentivized to not reject this label, so the struggle to end this division is doomed to be one-sided. ”

    **Just to clarify, based on the definitions you’ve provided: oppressed people have interest in NOT being oppressed, so the struggle to end white supremacy will be one-sided against white supremacists? Again, you will find that if you stepped out of your own echo chamber, not all white people are white supremacists).**

    “And if individuals were to dissent, then they are doomed to be shamed and attacked by their assigned group and labeled as “traitors” or “sellouts,” like the Black Tea Party activists, according to Fox News.”

    **I think much of Chapman’s student body, faculty, and administration would prefer if you dissented from white supremacy, Ryan.**

    “E Pluribus Unum (out of many, one) beats multiculturalism. Don’t divide people into groups, but rather, unite them.”

    **Multiculturalism is not division. It is much closer to unity than division.**

    ” These authoritative attempts for inclusion have only created a larger divide between groups. ”

    **There is currently a large divide in America between people who are white supremacists and people who are not.**

    “42 percent of Americans worry a “great deal” about race relations, as compared to 2014, which was only 17 percent, according to Gallup News.”

    **42 percent of Americans are probably concerned about the white supremacists.**

    “A wise man once said, “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” ”

    **Yikes.**

    “If recipients of the Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals program (DACA) should not be punished (deported) because they are not responsible for the actions of their parents, then why should white people be responsible and suffer for the actions of other white people committed generations ago? It is ridiculous to assert that individuals should be ignored or punished because of their skin color.”

    **This is an EXTRAORDINARY fallacy. WOW. Do you really feel like you can compare yourself to a child ripped from the only home they know, because you are not fond of people of color living fruitful lives in the United States of America? I know that you are not suffering as a result of their success, just like I am not suffering from it. You are also not being held responsible for slavery. I would love to hear an example of any time in your life when you were held responsible for slavery. Awful, Ryan. Really awful.**

    “To the closet conservatives on campus: Don’t tolerate name-calling that is deliberately dishonest. Force them to prove what they claim,”

    **I really hope I have done enough to prove my claim that this opinion piece you’ve written aligns with the ideals of white supremacy.**

    ” or simply respond with this stumping phrase: “Not an argument!” ”

    **Damn, I could’ve just been saying that this whole time?**

    “Labeling someone “racist,” “Uncle Tom” or “privileged white guy” is not an argument. ”

    **In my 22 years of life as a white male, I have NEVER been called any of those things. If you have, you might want to re-consider some of your claims.**

    ” It’s a personal attack and a convenient way to sidestep what someone is saying.”

    ** Notice how I used logical discourse instead of calling you those things? **

    ” People on the left expose themselves as racists in their own right by citing race when they meet someone with whom they disagree, ”

    **This is literally what you are doing.**

    “as shown when dozens of students at Evergreen State College protested a white teacher who refused to leave campus on a “no-whites” day, according to the Washington Times.

    Forced diversity, casual hatred for straight white men and ostracism of conservative blacks and gays have become commonplace.”

    **It is very easy to exist as a straight white man and not be subject to hatred. Just sayin.**

    ” I’m not arguing that forced diversity hurts students (even though it does). ”

    **And in one line you have completely squashed any modicum of journalistic integrity that you had left**

    “Rather, in the pursuit of diversity for the sake of diversity, echo chambers, which only breed radicalism, have created the perfect climate where voices can be silenced. Diversity can be and usually is a good thing, but forced diversity is not. Everyone, especially colleges, should start to take political and intellectual diversity as seriously as they take the more superficial forms of diversity.”

    **Interesting that this is the title of your column, but you are only just now bringing up these alternate diversities that you feel so strongly about. It’s almost like this column WAS about race. Also, trust me, as a member of our university’s Honors Program advisory board who read applications and admit students into the program, we cherish ‘intellectual diversity’. We call it interdisciplinarity. We call it democratic thinking. We call it global citizenship. It exists at our school in great spirit. Behind the doors of your university’s classrooms your peers discuss at great lengths the insidious and foul nature of opinion pieces written by people who lack a world-view that would allow them to see past themselves and understand that the issue of racism in America is simple to define. There is a divide between white supremacists and everyone else. We read these pieces and some of us get upset; some of us are baffled, but most of us know that they are written from a place of ignorance and misunderstanding. All we can do is expand our own horizons and hope that what we learn can contribute to critical, thoughtful, logical discourse that will one day truly make America great.**

    “Supporting only a specific ethnicity, and silencing or dismissing what someone says on the basis of their ethnicity, is the opposite of diversity and is the definition of racism.”

    **Yes. White supremacy = racism. Nice, you’re learning already!**

    All people are created equal, and all people equally deserve to say what they believe.

    **Absolutely.**

    Race collectivism is racism. Period.

    **Ryan! Bro! You just said it yourself! White supremacy is collectivism. Its racism.**

    “If you silence an opinion, then you are assuming your infallibility, and that is the root of real fascism.”

    **I couldn’t have said it better myself! (I could have)**

    Anyway, that took a really long time to write. Thanks for having this discussion with me. Stop by the honors commons any day you want to engage in some of that intellectual diversity you’re advocating for.

    Best,
    Nolan

    • Nolan. I think you just delivered the most articulate and meticulous roast of all time. I applaud you, sir.

      Ryan, need some ice?

    • As a Chapman Alumn, this reply makes me proud to know that there are still allies that will call bull on crap like this. Thank you, Nolan.

    • Nolan, I laughed several times from your response, glad to know that someone else has a similar thought process. While I applaud your witty and thorough deconstruction of this article, the cynic in me questions whether it’s even worth it to discuss such things — how much can be accomplished by back-and-forth in writing? For me, it took up close and personal experiences with the ‘other’ to develop deeper empathy for issues that POC face. It has been a process, but I am glad to say that my personal experiences and my Chapman education have helped me a great deal in the empathy department. Always a sad day when I am reminded my story is not universal.
      Sincerely,
      Another white male

    • Well KRES NOLAN, aka CHRISTOPHER NOLAN (we all know who you really are) sounds like you drank too much of the punch! If I do I say I do say so myself, this is an OPINION piece, and it’s great to see that this prompts more discussion. However, to think that you are the your opinion is objectively more correct than his actually puts yOU in the oppressor’s seat! Yet another example of “intellectual” bullying to discourage someone who thinks differently from you! However this is a learning process so we’re all here for some education I guesSS? which doesnt exclude you or me. please get back to me ASAP at @ itanimulli.com thanks guy

      • Same person, imma level with you here. Everyone understands this is an opinion piece. But I’m having trouble understanding that criticizing an opinion is tantamount to oppression or bullying.

        You’re a student, you’ve written essays before. If you’re giving your opinion on why World War One happened, you gotta back it up with something credible. And you can expect the teacher to point out when your opinion is poorly formed and goes against the information that is currently available. The same principle applies here dog. Some opinions have a stronger foundation in reality than others, and pointing out holes in said opinions is important for society.

        This is a critique, not a hit piece. You’re in college, you should probably know this stuff already.

        • I’m gonna call you on this one. Marxists CONSTANTLY throw out virtue -signalling keywords with nothing to back them up. Diversity, white privilege, marginalized, oppressed, etc. etc. Oppressed and marginalized are my favs because Prog love to use them but never elaborate HOW they are oppressed and marginalized. They also like to pick and choose science only when it suits them. For example, climate change is settled science and anyone that isn’t on board is a denier, but somehow, gender science isn’t settled despite there being no confusion regarding gender in the medical community.

    • Thank you, thank you, thank you. I would absolutely check into The Panther more often if they appointed writers like yourself.

    • NOLAN! You’re amazing. This comment helped me digest Ryan’s post without combusting. Thank you for taking the time to break down ill woven arguments to educate and kindly (but not too kindly) correct.

    • Nolan,

      You make me so proud to be a Panther.

      I’m so grateful for your careful analysis of such a difficult (and illogical) opinion piece. The world is a better place with intelligent, thoughtful and logical people like you in it.

      Thank you for speaking for, what I believe is, the majority at Chapman.

    • Nolan, do you seriously think any serious person is going to read your blather? You must think your opinion is very important to write so many words–that makes one of you.

    • Your manifesto pretty much helps make a lot of the author’s points.
      Strange you don’t see the hypocrisy in all of the talking points you regurgitated.

      When talking about “race collectivism”, strange you pull the lazy and tired “white supremacism” card while conveniently ignoring “supremacist” groups like Black Lives Matter. Trying to pin your opponent as a “racist/white supremacist” Does Not Work Anymore.

      Remember; your talking points you’ve been fed are VERY well known. Nothing new – you can read this crap 10,000 times a day from rabid leftists triggered on Twitter. No need to repeat them over and over when we’ve heard them all before.

      Hence the need for articles like Ryan’s.

    • Nolan, I’d like to congratulate you for writing one of the most inventive and creative pieces of sophistry I’ve ever had the good fortune to come across. I look forward to giving it the thorough dismantling it warrants, but as I’m fairly busy right now that will have to wait a few days. I’ll leave you with this preview though (thanks for the formatting style, I’ll be borrowing it):

      “I really hope I have done enough to prove my claim that this opinion piece you’ve written aligns with the ideals of white supremacy.”

      **Unless the American definition of ‘white supremacy’ is radically different to the British one, you haven’t. Not even close.**

      • Still waiting on this reply. I’m sure it’ll be ‘thoroughly dismantling’, given the 3 months you’ve had to ruminate on it.

    • So many things to say about this comment. But I’m only going to comment on one of your remarks.

      You leave the question that, “Does someone who disagrees with Black lives Matter sounds like someone who loves or hates blacks?”
      **that- first off – is something I hear repeatedly and shows that you clearly do not understand where he’s coming from. I love people no matter what their skin is. But, “black lives matter”, not the statement, but the organization and movement is awful. It hasn’t accomplished much more than self segregation of the back community, and the women who started the movement have an interview saying the movement had gotten out of hand compared to what it was originally supposed to be.
      So- do more research and less your guiding, and learn a thing or two before you spout off false crap.
      Blessings

    • Ahh sorry Nolan. One more thing. I wanted to add also that this is very well written and I do not hate on anything you wrote but disagree with some.
      -I simply wanted to reply that in my life as a white male, I have been called “racist”, “privileged”, and an “Uncle Tom”. Congratulations on never being called those things in your short 22 year old life. But that is not a rebuttal at all. It is simply one case that proves nothing. If I’ve never seen racism does that mean it doesn’t exist? Exactly. I think you get the point. You say Ryan claims false truths. However, if you consider those false truths, then you’re reply is full of them also.
      But, thanks you for sharing your insight.

    • I already addressed this in a comment but here’s another with a story that explains it Nolan- I have no problem saying that black lives matter. However, the black lives matter movement is complete garbage at this point as it is distractive. The women that created the movement in the first place have testimony saying that it is out of control compared to what they intended it to be. Many people do not have a problem saying black lives matter, they have a problem with how things are being handled. I witnessed and stepped in as I saw a black man being beaten because of his support of Trump. That is racism. And who is he being beaten by? He was being beaten by other blacks who called him light skin and a traitor. Pathetic. By the way, I sent two of his assailants to the hospital. So Nolan- think about this – I already stated that I disgree with the “Black Lives Matter” moment. Yet, who stepped in to help the kind gentleman of color as he was being beaten? O wait – a white man. (I am actually half white and half Native American, Cherokee to be exact) – and I’m not complaining that whites took land years ago because we can only live out our live the best we can to help others. But, all the Black Lives Matter people care about is causing riots and standing around protesting. Go out and do something useful to help a cause if you’re fighting for something. Geez people really need to learn.
      You are a great writer Nolan. I think you simply don’t have enough experience under you’re belt.

    • You do realize, kid, when you decide to play Grammar Nazi, you better have perfect grammar yourself. So, reread your retort and start correcting.

      Oh, and by the way, not every assertion needs proof. Some things, as they say, are prime facie. The idea racial tensions are on the rise isn’t a novel concept. Numerous polls, comments, and anecdotal evidence supports the notion. Your demands of proof only makes you and your backslapping posse of responders in these comments seem petty.

      It’s as if you’re ilk are so troubled by the push back on your agenda, you’ll focus on minutia in order to score points.

    • Good article Ryan. Don’t worry about the snowflakes, the real world has little use for them.

      It is entirely entertaining that your article is proven accurate with every instance of ‘faux-rage’ and calls for violence.

      The other side of it is, the real world isn’t fair, never has been, never will be. Work (or play) has hard as you wish, and hopefully you’ll meet the objectives you set for yourself.

    • HOW IS IT IGNORANT? Just like a racist liberal- real quick with the accusations and condemnation with no evidence to support your claim. Instead of debating, all you can do is name-calling. Pathetic.

    • Haha name calling. Exactly what Ryan talked about. That leads me to believe you are not very well informed or educated on politics at all.

      • are you aware that affirmative action benefits white women over anyone else? and are you aware that affirmative action isn’t a thing in california? or no?

      • Are u aware that chapman is 1% black… or that affirmative action mostly benefits white women.. or that white people disproportionately receive the most scholarships for university… or that chapman doesn’t use affirmative action or that many poc at chapman are in the honors program? I know it’s easy to scape goat to blame people of color for your own failures… but I expect better from the chapman community.

      • Hey pal 😉 😉 why don’t you google California proposition 209? 😉 😉

        and maybe also read up on affirmative action in general if you need to brush up.

        • Anyway, main point: no one is “forcing diversity” and also, diversity is awesome, and now I’m going to stop checking this page because it’s really messing with my day ✌

      • Ah yes affirmative action. Thank you for bringing this up. However, it seems that you have conviniently left out the admissions advantages of those who are recruited to play a college sport, who have alumni relatives, or who have rich parents that donate large chunks of money (which substantially overpowers any sort of “affirmative action” admissions decisions. And as someone else pointed out, these “affirmative actions” are not necessarily advantageous to disadvantaged groups of minorities but white females. Are you aware of this? Or no?

  • Hey Ryan. I think it’s pretty pointless to say this but please, for the love that is all pure and good in this universe, check yourself and try and see things from a differing perspective. This piece is SATURATED with VERY blatant ignorance. I do hope that you would be open to having an actual sit-down with students of color at Chapman (who may or may not choose to give you the time of day considering this is irrevocably offensive…that is their decision) and other allies to POC to hopefully instill some nugget of tolerance in you.

    Please prove me wrong and actually try and back up your words with action by having open discussions with students of color/POC allies. I’ll be waiting to see if it happens.

    • this sounds more like a threat? this isnt about who has the biggest DINGALING here okay? im pretty sure the Nazis used the same “accuse the other party of being immoral, ignorant, and plain wrong” tactics in order to fearmonger people into following them

      • Where is the threat? Tommy’s comment contains no fighting words or promises of retaliation. It asks him to sit down and talk to people of color. Where’s the threat dude?

        • Peel back your eyelids, peel back the curtains, and see what’s really going on here…. alright not everyone is what they seem mmkay? Tommy’s history of attitude isn’t gonna get him DIDDLY SQUAT here

          • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! If by “history of attitute” you mean unbridled sass and zero tolerance for empty words spoken by an uneducated child, then I would agree with you. Also, this is not a threat at all and honestly I don’t get why or how you would read it like that.

            I just told the poor boy to actually sit down with other students and have an open dialogue and it is my genuine hope that he does!

            Also, if you want to be less of a scared little teenager and actually put a name down instead of an anonymous title, that would be great. We are grown ups here. I’m not going to beat you up. Trust me.

    • Ryan’s article wasn’t about students of color. It was about how opinions, both black and white, are being silenced if they dissent.

      • But imagine as a person of color, who’s been programmed to think “All Conservatives Are White Supremacists” reading an article like this.

        The far left narrative of racism/white supremacy is creating a bunch of brainwashed marginalization junkies and articles like this threaten to take his metaphorical “crack” away (victimization).

        A lot of people are TIRED of identity politics in the first place – a conservative talking about diversity of views doesn’t really care or need to hear about a person’s skin color and why it matters. If Tommy pulls the race card, that conversation isn’t even about what Ryan is discussing.

        It’s sad to see how identity politics and marginalization are destroying any real message people on the left may have, and all of this shouting (Nazi! White Supremacist! Racist!) is just making more and more people ignore the left, while progressives and moderates get drowned out.

        Leftists don’t need a safe space, they need a quiet space.
        Far, far, far away from the adults that contribute to society…

    • You’ve made the claim that the article is full of ‘blatant ignorance,’ now back up that claim with evidence. He does not need to prove you wrong; he carefully explained and backed up his points within the article. It is you who needs to put up or shut up.

    • I have had a chat with many people of color. Many other students of color just play the race card because you’re all in college and honestly don’t know anything about the real world other than what you read in a textbook. But, many people I’ve talked to in the real world, who are people of color, would tell you this is true and you need to get off your high horse.

  • I am shaking in my boots. I had no idea that my presence and my voice at a majority white institution made you feel so threatened. No forced diversity? Guess I will just go home. – One of the few POC on campus.

  • Honestly just expel him lmao. Let his parents spend tuition money elsewhere. Or let me talk to him, shoot my eyes are peeled on campus to go and educate this boy. & seriously @ Chapman University, this reflects so badly, your “Freshman Foundations Course” isn’t proving to be all that eye-opening and I’m sure admissions needs fixing. Out of this school and off this campus please and thank you.

    Overall, help this child and help this school. Fellow white people, please stay in your assigned lane.

    • Expel him on what grounds? Having an opinion different than yours? What are you gonna do if you see him on campus, Elizabeth? Your comment reads as though its a threat. I’d say your eyes aren’t open to other opinions.

      • I wouldn’t say that he should be expelled, so much as “if he doesn’t like it here, he should just go back to where he came from” but that would go against the “discussion” and “political dialogue” that I don’t see much evidence of in Ryan’s article. Like how you gonna advocate for speaking and getting out of echo chambers if your views are clearly biased towards a certain side

        • Definitely not the same as “going back where you came from,” more of “stop talking about diversity acting like life really hurts you.” Am I advocating and speaking out against echo chambers? Don’t know where I said that, didn’t quote that in his article. My views are biased towards being inclusive and not racist lol so I’m glad to be so.

      • He’s in your class? What’d you say to him? I bet you really gave it to him and put him in his place!

      • You sound like more of an extremist and supremacists than Ryan.
        If you can’t handle diversity of thought, you will NOT survive in the real world, you child.

        There are no safe spaces in The Real World, there are Big Bad Scary White Men out there with Different Opinions Than You.

        Time to focus on getting your education and learning how to treat all walks of life with respect, or you’re no better than any other bigot or racist out there.

      • They have nothing of substance to offer as a counter-argument. Only racism, name-calling and veiled threats. Racists like Elizabeth need to be called out each and every time.

    • While I think his views on diversity and multiculturalism are abhorrent, expelling people whose viewpoints you disagree with creates exactly the kind of echo chamber and lack of change-creating and opinion-shifting discussion Ryan argues against. Telling white people to ‘stay in their lanes’ does nothing to improve the situation. The reason multiculturalism and diversity are great is because they brings a variety of perspectives and backgrounds together to create more accurate and nuanced picture of the world, and expelling people for a difference of opinion is contrary to that.

      • Echo chamber? Really? Not the point. This man is creating a harmful and triggering dialogue that is harmful to a lot of people of color on campus, not one that will create actual change. And honestly, his perspective isn’t a variety: there are plenty of white straight skinny males who think that their lives are compromised by this “forced multiculturalism” so yeah he should stay in his lane and so should you.

        • Elizabeth, you could not have proven the author more right with your comments!

          He says that all opinions should be heard and none should be banned on the basis of skin color, gender, ancestry, or orientation.

          And what do you say?
          You say that Ryan should be expelled and his opinion should be banned because he is a “white straight skinny male.” You attack him for his skin color, gender, ancestry, and orientation!

          And I’m confused how you say that what he says is harmful to a lot of POC on campus? He was speaking up for POC who are attacked for having right-leaning ideas. That’s not racist, last time I checked.

        • Your dialog is 10X more harmful.

          He’s talking about DIVERSITY OF OPINION; yours, his, EVERYONES.
          In response to that, you’re trying to exile this young man – just for having different political views than yours.

          Sweetie, this is why the left is dying. Grow a backbone. It’s a big world out there, you’ll never get along with anybody if you treat those different than you with such intolerance and bigotry.

        • “Echo chamber? Really? Not the point.”

          Yes it is. The SJW generation has proven themselves to be viciously intolerant to opposing ideas. Stop lying

          “dialogue that is harmful to a lot of people of color on campus”

          No it isn’t. The Victim Identity Fetish will end one day, and historians will look at this era for the nonsense that it was.

        • So triggering is = to having a different opinion. The implied goal is NO diversity of thought; no differing opinion except for the one we DEMAND that you have. Do you even hear this sick, fascist line of thinking you are pushing? You are on the wrong side of history, racist Elizabeth.

    • “Stay in your lane” – because I’m white?? Yea, you just proved Ryan’s point. Learn a thing or two about the real world before you get all upset and claim he should be expelled.
      Ever heard of free speech? O wait I’ve probably lost you there. You’re a college student and you know nothing of the real world yet? Have you had a job? Jobs?? Probably not any real ones yet. But, if you’d like to learn a thing or two read the constitution. It’s a good start.

  • Wow, thank you for all these comments!
    I am glad there are so many passionate people who can peacefully discuss this topic.

    Just to clarify,
    I did not say and did mean for readers to assume that this article is mainly about Chapman.
    It was an article on the campus system and American culture as a whole.

    p.s. For those who have already falsely labeled me as a racist and white supremacist: That’s not an argument!

    I’m a classical liberal who believes that no opinion should be shut down, whether it’s Antifa and BLM or Neonazis and the Westboro Baptist Church. And when you justify silencing someone due to their race, gender, orientation, or whatever, then it just gets ugly. Prove them wrong; don’t attack.
    I also believe all people are created equal, and we are in the most equal, fair, and free nation ever created, despite what your __________ studies professor may tell you. Of course, there is still racism (~0-3% of pop.) and sexism and all the rest in the U.S., but it’s less than any other country in the world. If anyone in America is privileged, then it’s all Americans who are privileged in comparison to the rest of the world, which is not as fair nor as equal nor as free as the United States.

    • I was simply saying put everyone and their opinions on an equal level, and that things spiral out of control when they aren’t.
      A call for equality and unity really.
      Hate me if you wish.

      • Okay, but privilege is inter-sectional and we don’t all share the same privileges. Your saying that we as Americans are the privileged ones compared to the rest of the world is just an abusive tactic that says, “you don’t have the right to express your grievances because someone else has it worse.” Again, silencing people. This seems to be a theme for you.
        And talk about just not doing your research. We have legalized slavery within our prison systems, women still afraid of reporting their abusers because of backlash that protects abusers, and people of color being actually silenced for speaking about their experiences and voicing their opinions (like you; except that you won’t be silenced and are just experiencing people responding to your blatantly ignorant opinion piece.)

        • “Okay, but privilege is inter-sectional and we don’t all share the same privileges.”

          A lot of people don’t believe such things.
          I think it’s a surefire way to turn a person off to your ideas when you start your comment in such a way. “Privilege”? “Inter-sectional”? You can live (and succeed) your entire life without victimizing yourself by such strange perspectives.

          Don’t be a victim, be a survivor. Empower yourself.

          Regarding the author’s opinions, race shouldn’t have anything to do with it; once you start trying to marginalize his voice, you’re using your privilege to ignore what he’s trying to say. Judge him by the content of his words, not the color of his skin – and ask that he does the same.

          Everybody has a right to an opinion.

    • Would LOVE to know what credible source or study supports “Of course, there is still racism (~0-3% of pop.)”. 0-3% of the population is racist? Racism affects 0-3% of the population? And we have less racism and sexism than other countries? How do you quantify this? What studies can you point to? And no groups in America are more priviledged than others? Are you sure? Not in regards to Income inequality? Wealth? Home ownership? Rates of racial profiling? Incarceration rates? Access to education? Pay rate? Health outcomes? Social mobility? There aren’t groups/identities in America that are priviledged in any of those areas? Sure, Jan.

      • Also labeling disenfranchised groups as “victim groups” de-values the struggle that minorities have gone through and are going through in this country. Our country was founded on “all men are created equal” and people like you parade that saying around like it frees you from any and all accusations of racism. Our country has never, and I mean NEVER, upheld that and the people wrote that had a profoundly different opinion of who actually qualified for that statement. You show a shocking disconnect between reality and whatever world you think you live in. These “victim groups” continue to be harassed, intimidated, beaten and murdered because of who they are in this country. You can’t look at the way we as a country have treated Black People, Mexicans, Women, Native Americans, Members of the LBGTQ+ community throughout history and tell me that we have treated them like they were created equally.

        • “Victim”/”marginalized” groups need to learn how to be survivors/empowered.

          Seems like this “marginalization” rally we’re seeing so many sheep flock to is creating more and more people that are 1) looking to the government to solve these self-created oppressions and 2) focusing their anger on the one non-victim group; white males.

          People will NEVER succeed by playing victim.

    • “Of course, there is still racism (~0-3% of pop.) and sexism and all the rest in the U.S., but it’s less than any other country in the world”

      What data are you using to back up this claim? I highly doubt you will find any quality data to back up your extremely ignorant claim that the US is the least racist and sexist country in the world. In fact, the UNDP actually puts together a Human Development Index to check this exact claim and turns out that the US is ranked 10th on the Gender Inequality Index.

      Since you have clearly never heard of the HDI or the GII, I am providing a link so maybe next time you chose to talk about racism and sexism you won’t sound so ignorant and uneducated.
      http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/GII
      http://hdr.undp.org/en/data

    • Placing BLM in the same sentence as neo-nazis and the Westboro Baptist Church is blatant and willful misunderstanding and disrespect towards the entire movement at best and at worst, and how I fully believe you meant it to be read, is equating literal nazis and the people who yell “god hates f***” to black people asking police not to murder us. It is absolutely beyond the pale and a cowardly, small-minded sentiment to even insinuate.

      • I agree here. I keep reading that all opinions deserve to be heard throughout the comments. We cannot consciously tolerate opinions that purposefully marginalize a group of people. As an alum I appalled but unfortunately not surprised. I am also hopeful based on the thoughtful responses.

    • Hilarious how a “classic liberal” contributes such stirring and thoughtful pieces as “The Common Practice of Killing Children Should be Aborted.” And strange that such a strong liberal perpetually refers to rest of his alleged party as “leftists” and takes the very liberal stance that even if a woman is raped she shouldn’t be allowed to have an abortion. I know many other liberals who believe that “guns don’t kill people, abortionists do.”

      Shameful, misleading, and frankly disgusting your hateful rhetoric is.

  • These liberals in the comment section are just proving you right. So utterly brainwashed by racist sjw identity politics that they can’t even begin to pick up the wisdom you’re putting down. Instead they’re just writing you off for your skin color. Sad!!!

    • the fact that they are replying, trying to explain our point of view, proves that this not writing him off. (that would be us ignoring him completely). And you say we’re playing identity politics while doing it yourself. If you are so in the right, how about replying to the ideas/arguments with your “truths”? It’s easy to start attacking the people instead of the ideas when you’ve run out of arguments.

      • Well first of all I don’t “play identity politics”. I only criticize those who cling to groups and expect different rights for their groups. These people ignore the fact that America was founded by individuals who fought for their own rights. If Americans all embraced their independence there would be no problem. Sadly there are too many crybabies out there for that to happen. No wonder Trump won. People are tired of whiners and complainers.

        • I’m howling.. Native Americans were here first and Colombus decided to kill all of them and say he “found” America.

          • Colombus never came to America. Colombus’ people killed cannibals in the Bahamas.

            Perhaps you’re thinking of the founder of the Democrat Party, Andrew Jackson, who committed genocide against the Native Americans?

    • you are also shutting people down without engaging…exactly what your pal Ryan is against

  • What a great article. There are a lot of people who are thinking the same thing as you. Keep it up.

  • You have to cite these numbers you’re posting in your response.
    – “there is still racism (~0-3% of pop.)”

    did you wake up and decide that only 3% of the population is racist? Is this the number of people that self-identify as racist?

    If so, then that is not a valid number to use in your response. Just because someone does not self-identify as a racist, such as yourself, doesn’t mean you do not contribute to systemic racism in our society.

    You do this repeatedly in your op-ed, posting your opinions and the copied opinions of others you’ve read in far-right media as fact. Either say “I believe” or have citations. A youtube video of a girl stealing a hat doesn’t count as a legitimate source, a fake story from the daily caller doesn’t count as a legitimate source, and your own feelings getting hurt doesn’t count as legitimate scholarly source.

    Come to terms with the fact that you feel this way because of unsubstantiated, unproven, and illegitimate news sources.

  • Chapman Libs say conservatives are racist, facist, oppressive, and condescending. Fake News!

  • Ryan, the comments coming from the left are the exact reason why Trump won. It is pure hate and ignorance. For all of you who are upset by this article, you can go to the cross cultural center as a safe space to cool down.

    • I’m sure you use Chapman republican meetings as a safe space, too. Your use of buzz words makes me *yawn*

  • For all those feeling victimized by this article, the cross-cultural center will be available for immediate use! Snacks and juice boxes will be available, for free!! This article is very triggering.

    • Oh Thank God, I don’t know how I’m going to get over reading an article by someone who has differing views as me. I think juices and snacks may help alleviate my triggeredness.

      • Lucky for you, we are offering grape, apple, and orange juice! Special requests for other juices can be made by filling out a form at the local cross-cultural center. Snack wise, we have orange slices and frozen grapes to cleanse our pallets of this sick article! Come one, come all!

        • Juice Box Man, why don’t you stop being a big sensitive snowflake and write down your name? Or are you afraid of what all us lefties are going to do 🙁 I’m sorry we’re so big and scary to you.

          • I’m actually concerned considering you lefties are unemployed and would have nothing better to do than plot a social genocide against me! Stay in New York and happy upcoming birthday to you!!

  • Why do racist white boys love to quote MLK in his most popular speech and none of his other IMPORTANT works.
    But because know you didn’t actually go out of your way to contextualize MLK because it was just a soundbite and your 6th grade teacher told you to begin your papers with an unrelated quote, here are some quotes from MLK about white boys such as yourself:

    “First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.”
    – Letter from a Birmingham Jail

    “Why is equality so assiduously avoided? Why does white America delude itself, and how does it rationalize the evil it retains?

    The majority of white Americans consider themselves sincerely committed to justice for the Negro. They believe that American society is essentially hospitable to fair play and to steady growth toward a middle-class Utopia embodying racial harmony. But unfortunately this is a fantasy of self-deception and comfortable vanity.”

    — Where Do We Go From Here, 1967

    “I contend that the cry of “Black Power” is, at bottom, a reaction to the reluctance of white power to make the kind of changes necessary to make justice a reality for the Negro. I think that we’ve got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard. And, what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the economic plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years.”
    – Mike Wallace Interview, 1966

    And lastly, do you know what an Uncle Tom is? I’m sure listening to Black history must have been exhuasting for you, but Uncle Tom is an insult that refers to Black people. Do your research and then the rest of us can pretend to care.

    • Yes, Ryan meant that black people don’t all think the same (believe it or not) and that the ones who dissent are labeled “Uncle Toms.”

      His article was about everyone, not just white people, although you’d like if it was.

    • “All white people are racist”
      According to data collected by the FBI and the US Census Beauru, Blacks make up 13.3% of the population (or about 39,908,095), yet 2,697,539 Blacks have been charged for a crime. That’s 6% of the Black population having been charged for a crime compared to roughly 2.4% for Whites. Blacks commit more than half of all murder and more than half of all robberies. Just ask the FBI. I’ve linked my sources below.

      Could you explain to me why BLM never protests the high rate of Black on Black crime in Chicago? Chicago is one of the most diverse cities in America, with approx. 1/3 of the population Black (32%), White (31.7% non-Hispanic), and Hispanic (28%). As of the time this comment was written, there were 449 Blacks who died in Chicago, with 55 confirmed Black assailnants, There were only 2 confirmed White assailants and only 10 confirmed Police assailants. To be fair, there are 492 unknown assailants, but according to Larry Elder, 70% of all homicide in Chicago is Black on Black. Can you provide me with evidence that this is Whitey’s fault? I’d love to read.

      I’ve also linked a clip of Larry Elder on The Rubin Report dismantling the argument of systemic racism. Also, consider reading Economic Facts and Fallacies by Thomas Sowell. Fact. Both these men are Black and have been called “Uncle Toms” and “Coons” by other Blacks. And yet WHITE people are the racists?

      https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045216
      https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43
      https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/chicagocityillinois/PST045216
      http://heyjackass.com/category/2017-stats/

    • Reverse racist for quoting MLK and offering a different side to his rhetoric? If you’re gonna accuse her of reverse racism here, you might have to level that charge against MLK too. I’m not sure that’s a route you wanna take Juice Box Man.

  • Do you actively try to engage with the left? Haven’t seen ya at Chapman Dems, Chap Fems, etc. meetings.

    Actually TRY to have civil discussion with people before dismissing an entire political ideology as closed off.

    • Apparently, he had never even talked to the Chapman Republicans until after the article was published. He experienced what he talks about at a junior college he attended last year.

      And I’m not sure how you can say he’s dismissing an entire political ideology, as he specifically said that all ideologies should be heard and none should be silenced.

  • I’m not even going to comment on the content because it is trash. I will say that you’re a really bad writer and you should work on it. Cheers.

  • In response to this article:

    Though I do agree that echo chambers are not productive and we need to have more inclusive discussions, your point about things that white people did a long time ago does not stand. We still continue to commit atrocities towards women, people of color, and all those within the LGBTQIA spectrum. And a lot of us who are convinced that we don’t, are continuing to spread apathy or subtle and unintentional but damaging racist mentalities without even realizing it. If someone calls you a privileged white kid or an Uncle Tom, yes that is accusatory. But if you’re being called that quite often, the appropriate response should not be to shut out those voices and ask for them to stop. The appropriate response is to look inward and think about WHY you’re being called that. Privilege is not a fault and is not something you can help having. But being defensive about it is exclusionary and mentally limiting. Instead of trying to defend why you think certain white people shouldnt be getting such a bad rap, maybe we could be USING our privilege to make some changes. Look deeper within ourselves and catch the casual racism we don’t realize we’re committing so that we can stop silently promoting discrimination. Use the knowledge we gain from widening our perspectives to educate others. I understand where you’re coming from with this, but what’s IMPORTANT right NOW is not that you’re feeling attacked as the few white people who are “innocent”. What’s important RIGHT NOW and what will bring about long term change and equality is FOCUSING on the INEQUALITIES that people are facing in this moment instead of ignoring the inequalities for the sake of not wanting to be name called for something you think you didn’t do wrong. I agree forced diversity is counterproductive. It feels forced no matter what and that only hurts our chances at equality. I agree that we need to just focus on being equal. But unless the people who are constantly being oppresssed to this day have a chance to step into the spotlight and fight back for their rights, it will never happen. And white people, me included, need to start seriously reflecting on the things that we don’t even know we’re doing wrong. Instead of writing a long defensive article about how attacked you feel, TALK to people within the minorities being oppressed. ASK QUESTIONS about what specifically youre doing wrong instead of getting defensive about being name called. Find out what you don’t realize you don’t know. These are the steps we need to take to reach equality, and they can’t be done within only your own head. It will take a long time and it will take everyone. But ignoring the fact that white people continue to oppress and KILL other people of different races, classes, and genders and getting defensive at the first signs of feeling attacked as a white person (despite how attacked all the people of color, women, and people within the LGBTQIA spectrum have been continually attacked and oppressed, silently and violently, for eternity and to this day) is only making things worse and drawing more hatred towards you, which is the OPPOSITE of what you want to do.

  • The more heavily you moderate these comments, the more it seems to be the very safe space echo chamber that y’all love to joke about. #makeracistsafraidagain

    • If this was a safe space, then wouldn’t everyone be coddling Ryan instead of criticizing his opinion? This seems like it is very much not a safe space.

      • Safe spaces are for people who are being attacked for things they can’t change. This guy just needs a good ass whooping and a few sociology classes and he has hope to change yet!

        • So shouldn’t the author go to a safe space since he’s being attacked for things he can’t change (e.g. skin color, gender, ancestry)?

  • This article is honedtly very triggering to me. I read it and haven’t been able to go to classes all day, as so many microagressions are being directed towards me and others. I’m at the cross cultural center right now and it feels safe, so others feel free to join me. The orange juice mentioned before is fresh and the grapes are seedless in case that was a deal breaker. How dare you be so insensitive Ryan! The only kind of free speech that exists today is that which aligns with my party, the losing Democratic Party.

  • Ryan writes a thoughtful article expressing the other side to the argument and gets slammed. Meanwhile, the other opinion articles talk about furry friends and “femme friendships” and receive no criticism. The irony is right in front of our faces and yet some of us can’t see it.

      • Well that’s because it talks about being gender fluid. There have been studies which prove that’s not possible. If gender can be fluid why not race?

  • LMAO at all these liberals. Do you really think the rich student population at Chapman doesn’t like Trump? We just stay quiet so we can go about our day without a hassle. #CHAPMANLOVESTRUMP

  • When did you stop reading this?

    I stopped at “If recipients of the Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals program (DACA) should not be punished (deported) because they are not responsible for the actions of their parents, then why should white people be responsible and suffer for the actions of other white people committed generations ago?”

  • I think Ryan’s point is that differing opinions are valid and should be discussed without labeling or attacking based on ethnicity or other characteristics. I thought Chapman was a place for higher learning and enlightenment? If you people cannot handle discussing subjects like this with respect and dignity towards people that don’t agree with your beliefs then you are going to be in a world of trouble once you graduate and get into the real world….. Read the article, agree or disagree, discuss like adults, learn something and move on.

  • Nolan, your piece was very well written too bad it missed the mark. Your freedom of speech isnt lost, in fact, it is thriving. The problem is everyone wants to be right or maybe righteous and that can’t be. Speaking and listening requires two different skill sets and you speak well but you are certainly not listening! #staywoke

  • oh look, another column from a privileged male white dude who wants to express his entitled opinion, as he’s spoon fed through life by his rich wealthy parents and forever sheltered that he can’t be open minded with his costly predatory education. i pity this fool and his delusions. go enjoy your safe bubbled life, dude

    • What is the purpose of this comment, just to anger him?

      While I agree with you, saying that he is just a “privileged white male” with an entitled opinion does absolutely nothing to convince him or anyone else who doesn’t agree with you to change their mind, and amounts nothing more than just name calling. Yes he is undoubtedly privileged being both white and likely fairly wealthy and that certainly has a huge part in how he obtained his flawed world-view, but just saying that does nothing to show why it is that what he wrote is wrong. What specifically makes his opinions delusional? His being very privileged doesn’t mean that his viewpoints are inherently incorrect, his viewpoints are incorrect because they are illogical and misinformed. Unless your desire is to simply express your feelings or needlessly angry people, you should be specific as to why it is that you are right and they are wrong, as opposed to just attacking their character.

  • All ya’ll are tripping.

    Ryan is talking about both black and white voices being silenced if they voice the wrong opinion. He isn’t hating on blacks. he is sticking up for the ones that are attacked for not being a real black person or for being a “ben Carson.”

  • Ryan obviously was not talking about whites vs blacks. He was calling for all voices to be heard, including black voices that are shut down if they’re republican or libertarian. That’s where the uncle tom name-calling comes in.

  • Just found this from a friend sharing it on Facebook. Very well written and reasoned, even if slightly insensitive. The author is obviously not a racist and is not against diversity so I was confused when I saw so many people commenting that.

    I can’t wait to see more!

  • Ryan,

    I know this question will be slightly off topic but on March 29th you wrote an article for “The Rouser” titled “Illegal Aliens: Committing the Crimes Americans Won’t Do!” in which you open the article by saying: “Illegal Aliens and Snakes. What’s the difference? Snakes don’t rape.”

    Why has the article since been removed?

    The original link (which was found by a poster above) now goes to a 404 page:
    https://rousernews.com/2017/03/29/illegal-aliens-committing-the-crimes-americans-wont-do/

    But Google caches web pages, so the article can be read here:
    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Mfb9aR3APxYJ:https://rousernews.com/2017/03/29/illegal-aliens-committing-the-crimes-americans-wont-do/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

  • I am honestly ashamed to be a Chapman alum after reading this – it has to be the most regressive and ridiculous thing I have read this year. I’m sure the author thinks he is presenting some new, edgy idea, but in reality, he makes clear his total lack of knowledge of America’s violently racist history and the way institutions have formed to reflect that violently racist past. His being admitted to an institution of higher learning and being given a platform for his ignorant thought is probably the best example that our efforts to diversify and include the voices of marginalized communities have not yet gone far enough. I invite the larger Chapman community, particularly the professors tasked with developing young and clueless minds, to reject this piece and elucidate the author on the merits of ending white supremacy.

    • Way to address his arguments with counter arguments. Or I suppose he is just too ignorant (and white and male?) to reason with.

    • > he makes clear his total lack of knowledge of America’s violently racist history

      Your knowledge of history is flawed. Violence and slavery have been the norm world wide. The US (and Europe) have been at the forefront of moving away from violence and slavery long before other cultures. Did you know there are more slaves in the world today than in 1850?

      Western culture has always been at the forefront of doing what is right. Compared to today’s standards, yes, the history seems rough. But dont’ forget north america was rife with slavery and murder among the indigenous tribes long before the white man showed up.

      Today, the US (and Europe) are the least racists places in the world. People from the continent of Africa leave their homes in droves to come here. Why? So that they could get closer to racism? That doesn’t make much sense, does it?

  • Honestly just waiting for the backpedaling and an apology column BUT THEN I REMEMBERED THAT CHAPMAN IS A CONSERVATIVE HELL HOLE AND THAT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

    • And yet Ryan thinks it’s another liberal uni that hates *raspberry noise* free speech for the right

    • I am Native American, and would like to say that our past does not define us. I do not sit around and complain because whites took my land. That would be absurd. You were born into what you were born into, and you cannot change that, so don’t call people racist just because of it. Just grow up and live your life to help others.

  • “Illegal Aliens and Snakes. What’s the difference? Snakes don’t rape.” – Ryan Marhoefer, Chapman University

    is this the kind of press you want, really now

  • i just read this entire article and it made me really sad…3 things:
    1) i just don’t understand why it is so hard for white people to say that black lives matter…?
    2) i feel like it’s been said enough that these social movements are fighting for equity and are not seeking for division.
    3) this article to me is just another example of how people like ryan are continuously missing the point.

    • Shelby criticizes Ryan of missing the point, as she misses the point of the article.

      It’s against the law to treat people unequally based on a physical characteristic in the workplace, admission, or any other kind of environment.

      What Shelby is really arguing is that all ideologies and groups are equal, but some are more equal than others.

    • I have no problem saying that black lives matter. However the black lives matter movement is complete garbage at this point as it is distractive. The women that created the movement in the first place have testimony saying that it is out of control compared to what they intended it to be. Many people do not have a problem saying black lives matter, they have a problem with how things are being handled. I witnessed and stepped in as I saw a black man being beaten because of his support of Trump. That is racism. And who is he being beaten by? He was being beaten by other blacks who called him light skin and a traitor. Pathetic. By the way, I sent two of his assailants to the hospital. So Shelby- do a little bit of more learning about politics before you criticize, and also think about this – I already stated that I disgree with the “Black Lives Matter” moment. Yet, who stepped in to help the kind gentleman of color as he was being beaten? O wait – a white man.

    • “i just don’t understand why it is so hard for white people to say that black lives matter…?”
      -Most white people agree that the lives of Black individuals do matter, just as much as ANY life. How can somebody support an organization, called “Black Lives Matter,” that has a reputation of burning down cities and looting?
      http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/us/missouri-looting-video/index.html

      “i feel like it’s been said enough that these social movements are fighting for equity and are not seeking for division.”
      -Here’s a list of demands that a Black Lives leader has for White People in particular. Let’s not forget that Antifa members deliberately target Trump supporters for simply supporting Trump.
      https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/08/28/black-clad-antifa-attack-right-wing-demonstrators-in-berkeley/

      “this article to me is just another example of how people like ryan are continuously missing the point.”
      -Thomas Sowell, economist and senior fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institution said, “If you have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have gotten you labeled a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago and a racist today”. He said this back in 1998. Mr. Sowell is also Black.

      I highly recommend you read Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell, or at least Economic Facts and Fallacies by Thomas Sowell. Mr. Sowell provides mounds of evidence and explanations for why such issues occur today. If you don’t want to read, I suggest you take ECON 200 next semester.

  • Ryan, like you I am white and I was once majored in Business Administration. But this is where our similarity ends.

    I do not understand how you have the privilege to attend the prestigious and exclusive, majority white, conservative university you are at – and yet believe your voice is stifled. Chapman is not a bastion of liberal politics, yet you seem convinced it is. Not only are you featured in the paper, you had the gall to write a lacklustser and circular paper. Your article contains a No True Scotsman falacy, ad hominem attacks, multiple strawmans, and a general lack of ability to define what a diversity of opinion is. You decry racial determinations as prevoursors to liberal thought, but then reduce yourself to your own race and sexuality and define your oponentes as racial subcatagories. Generally, you don’t seem to actually know what you are arguing for.

    I have attended three different post secondary institutions and based on your age I do not think you have expanded your world view beyond Chapman. Not one of, our classmates that you just insulted do not all hold the same opinion, we are all individuals, yet we are an ‘other’ to you “straight white male” identity- which you yourself denoted. If you want to see a truly diverse student body that has people of all races on all sides of the political spectrum, visit a school that does not have less African Americans perventage-wise than in our state. Visit a school where people do not have an average income above 100,000 dollars. Visit a school that actually mirrors the racial and economic demographics of our state.

    This is Orange County, where hundreds of thousands of white families fled Los Angeles when it became illegal to stop blacks from buying a house in the 1960s. You are standing in the home base of conservatism in California and you think you’re in Castro.

  • ” If recipients of the Deferred Action on Childhood Arrivals program (DACA) should not be punished (deported) because they are not responsible for the actions of their parents, then why should white people be responsible and suffer for the actions of other white people committed generations ago? It is ridiculous to assert that individuals should be ignored or punished because of their skin color.”

    @RYAN!!

    Ok my fellow whitey, let’s get one thing straight, WE ARE STILL BENEFITTING FROM THE ACTIONS OUR ANCESTORS COMMITTED. America was founded upon white people taking land, raping, and killing poc so literally everything you have and everything you’ll ever earn is stained with that blood.

    DACA kids shouldn’t be punished because they are innocent children born of parents who had no choice but to come here for safety. The land that Chapman is built on and that you get to enjoy with all your fellow privileged white guys used to be Mexico. Native American tribes lived right here until our ancestors came and ripped them from their rightful place. How dare you even try to compare the crimes white people committed to DACA recipients? The nice little house on Grand that pikes play beer pong and date rape girls at was built on land owned by LatinX people. The fact that we get to live here is ridiculous- the absolute LEAST we can do is try to not be racist ok? Just try checking your privilege for a minute.

    • DACA recipients had no choice in living in America, and neither do white people who are born here. Neither chose to be here.

      He is not the racist. You are.

      And I believe it considered libel when you falsely accuse a group, such as PIKE, of rape.

    • The land is stained with innocent blood. But, guess what? I’m Cherokee (a Native American tribe) as you probably know. And not sitting around whining that I should have other things just because whites took my land.
      The difference between your understanding and mine is that I’ve grown up and realized life isn’t fair- yet we should do our best to help others- not to complain and blame because things didn’t go out way in the past.

  • Great article! It appears that all these people hating on you do not understand your article because they are too busy being hypocrites. It doesn’t take a genius to understand your point. All you libs gotta understand Chapman will continue to be a conservative school with a large conservative student body. You don’t like it?? There are a ton of other options.

  • Oh boy. The weak snowflakes have been triggered in a big way by this article. It must absolutely suck to be so scared of different opinions…

  • Great job standing up for your beliefs, Ryan, despite all the hate you are running into from the “tolerant left”. Just know you have plenty of support from the alumni of Chapman.

  • Excellent column. Racislist “diversity” should be exposed for the totalitarian nonsense that it is.

  • The reason why people are so critical of you and the alt right, why people compare you to Nazis, is because people like you take selfies with Milo Y. And Richard Spencer, decry the idea that those two have anything to do with racism when they are confessed neo Nazis, then are surprised when three men shot at protestors at a spencer event while saluting hitler. An hour earlier the same men were on TV decrying the protestors as unfair.

    • Ryan Marhoefer NEVER took a picture with Richard Spener. Ryan Marhoefer has NEVER met him, does NOT support him, and despises him.

      Milo Yiannopoulos, a gay Jew who married a gay black man, is not a white supremacist, Nazi, nor homophobe, believe it or not.
      Ryan Marhoefer has met him, does support him, and rather loves him because he represents a minority who did not succumb to the Left’s tribal identity politics, rather he spoke his mind and called out the rampant hypocrisy and racism that is rampant in the Left.

      The reason why the above commenter is anonymous is so that he/she can avoid any accusations of blatant, deliberate libel.

  • It looks like all of the whining leftists have proven Marhoefer’s point. Two things trigger leftists like nothing else. Truth and mockery turn them into howler monkeys. More and faster please. Challenge every belief a leftist has.

  • As far as this article, it all just seems pretty straight forward and logical, pointing out that the ‘diversity’ and ‘inclusivity’ ideology is despicably racist, demeaning and divisive. What’s more interesting though, is seeing just how many young people are so badly brain-washed with this post-modern, neo-marxist identity politics. And their reactions here display that they can’t even think for themselves and offer real counter arguments. They just devolve into this sort of hysteria and moral outrage, as they’ve been conditioned to.

    The idea that including people of various races into any given situation makes things ‘diverse’ is in itself about as racist an idea there is. It assumes that any individual of a so-perceived racial group (or any group) necessarily shares the same attitudes and ideas as all other members of said group. This is an affront to individualism, is demeaning and disempowering. Is this not clear? Does it really make you feel good to be aligning your identity to a group based on these basic characteristics or circumstances? People that push this victim narrative only make those they purport to help weaker instead of more resilient.

    The anti-white rhetoric here and elsewhere is absolutely disgusting and the most egregious form of racism presently. The idea of ‘white privilege’ is an abhorrent illusion based on resentment. White people are generally very good people, have created the best societies the world has known: Western Civilization – open, free, fair, enlightened and welcoming. White people have made significant contributions to the mankind in: art, western music, philosophy, literature, science, technology and so on. The very word ‘diversity’ really just means: non-white. And in forcing this diversity, you’re ruining society, by pitting people against each other, espousing ‘anti-racism’ whilst being horribly racist.

    Self-loathing White people that espouse anti-white sentiment and self-flagellate are strangely racist in their assumed role of protector of the poor minority groups. This exhibits the ‘bigotry of low expectations’, as if so-perceived victims are too stupid and weak to stand up for themselves.

    I think that the ‘Left’ has become strangely degenerate, perverted and corrupt. They’ve lost the ability to debate intelligently and are no longer liberal, in their push against free speech, individualism. Sexual deviance, the push of transgenderism, protection of pedophiles, siding with censorship and communism, siding with threatening Islamists and so on.

    Identity politics only exasperates divisiveness and disempowers people.

    • This guy hit the nail squarely on the head.

      Anyone reading the comments should take a second to read the preceding comment, which is masterfully written.

  • You’re young, and you can still learn. I held many of the same prejudices that you still hold when I was young and dumb (I’m not calling you dumb, Ryan, just saying that *I* was dumb, but held many of your same views).

    But your statement about “a vain attempt to create ‘inclusion’” speaks volumes. What do you have against inclusion? Why to you consider some unworthy of what has long been a melting pot? Do you hate the Statue of Liberty which holds the poem “Bring me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to breath free?”

    And if you’re only hearing one side, it’s simply because you aren’t listening. Don’t blame those who disagree with you because you listen to them more than your own side. The white supremacists that you seem to agree with are LOUD, and have police on their side (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/09/california-police-white-supremacists-counter-protest).

    My boss is very conservative, so we have Fox News on at work. Not at all my first choice, but at least I see the side I disagree with (and, while rare, they do make some good points now and then). There are times when they’re right, there are times when I look things up and realize they were wrong, whether intentionally or not, and there are times where I know they’re full of it from the get-og (like when they say people are unpatriotic to disagree with Trump, after spending eight years bashing the previous president at every opportunity).

    I truly do hope you learn, as you grow older. I know it took me a while, but I’m SO glad I did learn. You’re a kid. At your age, I didn’t know **** about **** (self-edited). And you’re showing the same tendencies I used to show.

    Then I worked with more people from different backgrounds, and realized that diversity is a GOOD thing. I learned a lot from people different than myself, and wish you the same success in knowing people different than you.

    Nobody is silencing your (in my opinion, incorrect) opinion. You got to be a guest writer here and say your piece. I may not agree with it, but I recognize your right to state it. I’m only trying to change that opinion, not violate your First Amendment rights and try to jail you for them. You say in a comment to this post that you were just saying “all opinions are equal,” and while I respect that cop-out, your original post was saying that racial diversity is bad. The United States has LONG been known as a melting pot of other cultures (though I had a teacher who, I still believe, was more accurate in calling it more of a “salad bowl” — we don’t all become the same, but the different ingredients are what make us who we are, even though a tomato will never become a piece of lettuce).

    I don’t hate you. I just know that you have a LOT to learn. When you say that opinion is more important than skin color, and to then frame that argument in a discussion of being anti-diversity, you belie your true intentions.

    And if you do believe that “Black lives matter” is a sham, then do you believe that black lives do not matter? Just like (and I did not see you claim to be antifa in the article, does that mean that those against anti-fascists are PRO-fascists?)

    You DID say, however, that white people shouldn’t be blamed for the sins of white people of the past. On that we mostly agree. But…you say it as if racism isn’t still a thing, as if cops don’t still shoot unarmed black people because those cops are scared little kids in an older person’s body, who do not deserve to wear the badge (I’ve met a lot of good cops, but wearing a badge doesn’t automatically make you a good person who isn’t scared of their own shadow). You said it as though car accident victims who are people of color don’t get shot for knocking on a door, and like racism has been solved, despite the racism that people of color STILL experience from day to day.

    If you don’t believe that is true, you have a LOT more to learn than I first gave you credit for having already learned.

    Please, Ryan, take an honest look at the world around you. The racism, the anti-Semetism, the hatred for the LGBTQIA+ community, and think to yourself…if you belonged to one of those groups,had you been born a minority, or (and here’s the kicker) if one of those groups controlled the nation, and you weren’t part of them, and YOU were ostracized for it, how would YOU feel?

    I know, it’s a hard exercise for someone who has always been in the majority. But try it. I have made an effort not to call you names; I’ve been called names enough for believing in equality, and I don’t wish that on you (although I’m sure some comments against you have gone there and I apologize that you had to put up with that).

    I wish you nothing but well, Ryan. But I also hope you learn a LOT more before you write your next post whining about how you aren’t at the top of the American food chain.

    • The statue of liberty poem is not federal law.
      The author is not a white supremacist, and it’s libel for you to assert that he is.
      The author never mentioned Fox News. I know he’s a Drudge Report guy though (not racist).

      “Then I worked with more people from different backgrounds.” So has the author. Humorous for you to automatically assume he hasn’t though.

      “your original post was saying that racial diversity is bad.” He never said that. I believe he has absolutely no problem with a multiethnic culture. He obviously believes in one American culture though (as do most Americans).

      The rest of your strawman argument is pure false assertions and pure misrepresentations.

      It’s this sense of unfounded self-righteousness that pushed tens of millions to vote for Trump.

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